Curse

suiraCLAW · Apr 29, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

http://gwshack.us/657bc
check below the page for skill description of faction skills.

This should be a degen build with a spike in it...

About the characters:
-blood nec 1: in battle, will hex opposing party with siphon. Spike: strike + gaze
-curse nec 1: in battle, will hex opposing team with para bond, faintheartedness and suffering. Wards for protection. Spike: foc
-curse nec 2: same as curse nec1, except no wards. spike: foc
-illusion nec: in battle, will hex opposing team with conjure and remorse. spike: accumated pain
-spirit spammer: spam spirits, this will give the nec's unlimited amount of energy
-monk backlinen, healing hands and heal seed are spammable

spike calculation:
2* foc = 240
strike = 96
gaze= 60
accumate pain= 30 + Dw (= ~100)

total: 240 + 96 + 60 + 30 + 100 = 526

What do you guys think about this one?

scars of insanity · Apr 29, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

looks interesting but the monk skill setup you have is kinda weird. healing hands isnt the best skill out there. one should go Rc/prot or a protection build cuz conditions are gonna eat you alive. 2 infusers is gonna cause some confusion. mabye one could go rc/prot necro the one is infuser/WoH and the other could be something else. hmm no fertile or symbiosis on your spirit spammer? alter holding would be a problem. the actual degen part of the build looks good tho.

suiraCLAW · Apr 29, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

new one: http://gwshack.us/53c18

I took HH because QZ gives it a nice cyclus + it's a nice warrior hate spell

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About conditions: There are now 3 skills that remove 1 condition from 1 ally and 3 that remove one from everybody.

Fertile added in place of balanced (ward of stability should take care of the kd anyway).

suiraCLAW · May 10, 2006, 06:09 PM // 18:09

*bump* new version with faction skill images: http://gwshack.us/70838

Give me some imput pls

Divineshadows · May 10, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Every single one of the characters in this build (except the ranger) is completely devoid of energy management.

All those necromancers and not even a single corpse clean-up/exploiting skill.

The redundant parasitic bond and suffering makes little sense.

The illusion hexer should be a mesmer with mantra of persistence and some heavy energy management.

Rez sigs on monks but not the spirit spammer?

Heal area on your monks in a degen build? The degen from faintheart on enemy warriors will be getting cleaned up if your monks ever touch this skill.

The build lacks disruption. It will lose to enemy spike teams very fast. Being able to interrupt an enemy ghostly when it claims resource is also very key. Also, degen builds (though this build looks more like an attempt at a feast of corruption spike) require disruption on the opposing heal parties.

You realize the awesomeness that is heal party -- so much so that you have 5 copies of it. This skill does rule, but 5 may be just a tad overkill. Try out another awesome skill called Aegis. Extinguish looks awesome, but 3 copies is too much when one should suffice. One copy of mend condition (fueled by channeling) and one copy of extinguish should be enough to get your team through most condition situations.

Your spike calculation counts strike and gaze in the formula. This is not valid as your target will receive healing in between these two skills (1.75 seconds between their casts). Vampiric gaze is an afterspike skill. Your spike of 526 damage will not even kill someone who swapped off their superior rune and has a 10% morale boost.

After your team uses up all their energy in the first minute of the match, you will have 7 players waiting around to regen. A formula for disaster.

suiraCLAW · May 11, 2006, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Soul reaping is best e-mangement possible in this game: if spirits get spammed you'll gain 20 energy each 5 secs (total with regen calculated), try to beat that

anyway modded it: http://gwshack.us/cf5b6 , disruption + exploit skills added, heal area changed...

about the spike: there's degen -> you should never spike somebody at full health -> spike will kill if the caller knows his job.

JR · May 11, 2006, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by suiraCLAW

Soul reaping is best e-mangement possible in this game: if spirits get spammed you'll gain 20 energy each 5 secs (total with regen calculated), try to beat that

But it costs you a character who has to stand around spamming spirits. Why not just go with a BiP Necro instead, who can actually do something else aswell?

Yes, Soul Reaping is half decent in HA. It is completely useless in GvG and TA.

suiraCLAW · May 12, 2006, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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But it costs you a character who has to stand around spamming spirits. Why not just go with a BiP Necro instead, who can actually do something else aswell?

Because a BiP nec won't do that much if he needs to use it on 4 people that keep spamming hexes + on everybody that gets e-surged... (not to mention that he'll need to heal himself)

Anyway I got somewhat a small solution: a Rt spirit spammer, extra (spike) protection + energy mangement for the whole team. (in other words: the spirit spammer has a lot more use now)

build: http://gwshack.us/657bc